Talk:Bloodline (VTM)

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[edit] Bloodlines

Obviously there's some disagreement as to what belongs on this page and what doesn't.

As far as I'm concerned, individual castes (such as Assamite Viziers, Assamite Warriors, etc.) aren't bloodlines, because none of the Kindred consider them such. They belong more as subsections on the clan's parent page.

I'm uncertain why several bloodlines were moved out of their existing sections into the "other" section (and then many were un-linked)? I'm confident with their current placement. If you think they belong elsewhere, let's have some explanation/discussion first. IanWatson 14:48, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I definately aggree regarding Clan sub-sects such as the examples given.

Appologies for the impromptu edit of the Bloodlines. It was just an observation (in my opinion, based on what I've read, anyway) that some Bloodlines had been placed under the heading of a certain Clan when (to my knowledge) there was no canon evidence of the Bloodline having originated from that Clan. In other cases, such as the Gargoyles, although they do share blood history with those Clans to which they were affiliated in the Article, they are not really decended from them, so really stood under their own catagory with their own origins.

Appologies, I just thought that it would be clearer for readers to understand if Bloodlines with a direct and known heritage from a Clan were under that Clans' heading. While Bloodlines of uncertain or multi-clan origins were placed under their own stead and it further explained in their individual Articles, the theories regarding their origins.

Shoot me.

Ian, genuine appologies for any trouble. Hope all other contributions have been helpful. Luthaneal 22:26 GMT, 25 Sept 2005

No apologies necessary. In cases of edits like this I just want to make sure that people explain themselves first. Victorian Age: Vampire explains (or at least alludes) to the Daughters of Cacophony's origins as a combination of Toreador and Malkavians. Gargoyle are Tremere servitors, but were created from three clans (yielding three Gargoyle "bloodlines:" Gangrel/Nosferatu, Gangrel/Tzimisce, and Nosferatu/Tzimisce.

I can understand your desire to put multi-clan bloodlines and such apart from everyone else, but this way if you're looking for (for example) any bloodlines that came from the Toreador, you can find them all, including the ones that are also bloodlines of other clans. It's better for searching purposes.

Not annoyed or irritated. Just making sure everyone's on the same page if we want this project to be successful. (: IanWatson 01:09, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for the feedback. Luthaneal 15:59 GMT, 26 Sept 2005

Weren't the Blood Brothers created by the Tremere antitribu and then just vicissituded to look like each other? That would put them under the Tremere and not Tzimisce list. I remember reading I think in GttSabbat that because there weren't any more Tremere antitribu and they couldn't embrace - there weren't going be any new BBs Coridan 17:44, 20 Nov 2005

Sure; feel free to add it. --IanWatson 04:30, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)